"This Isn't America" -- You Can't Say That Here

[Mr. T]

How in the hell did this thread get turned into a paranoid911 Alex Jones George Noory conspiracy?

The sole purpose of this post was to show how those who are suppose to be our keepers of the laws and rights are being so fugging hypocritical.

Who said it? “I don’t have time to play this constitutional bullsh*t!”

Why in the fudge does everyone in the current government, profile vets with weapons and are so damn scared of them?

Why in the he11 is our government spying on everyone's freaking statements over social media?

Who and why the he11 is the adminstration so interested in those who do not except Obama's brand of government?

And by the way we have had many tin men over the years.

[Aaron Burr]

Al, reading comprehension goes both ways. Where did you read your name in the above Bourbon influenced rant?

Anyway, "Bottom line is our countrymen on 9/11 were murdered by Muslim terrorists, not Jack Booted Thugs from our own government."

Hellz yeah. I'm selling bacon grease and shredded koran candles, not...um...see? I can't even think of a product to market to the anti jack booted thug crowd.

[Uncle Al]

Al, reading comprehension goes both ways. Where did you read your name in the above Bourbon influenced rant?

Anyway, "Bottom line is our countrymen on 9/11 were murdered by Muslim terrorists, not Jack Booted Thugs from our own government."

Hellz yeah. I'm selling bacon grease and shredded koran candles, not...um...see? I can't even think of a product to market to the anti jack booted thug crowd.

Fair enough. You didn't quote anybody and I chose to take it personally. As for a product to sell, how about a package deal that includes a stack of plain body outline shooting targets, a fat black magic marker, and a booklet of design suggestions for the shooter to choose from. Designs to include anything from Mother Theresa to Jerry Lewis with stops along the way showing JBTs, SEIU pickets, Michael Moore, Kim Kardashian, Nancy Grace, Billy Graham, and Pee-Wee Herman. Oh, yeah, and Al Franken.

[Ironsmith]

Uh, what about Lon Horiuchi. There has to be Horiuchi design to complete the package, right?

[Mr. T]

[DONT TREAD ON ME]

I don't have an educated opinion on the 911 truthers, but I submit this for discussion when has our government told the truth lately.

[Aaron Burr]

Oy... Let's try and be precise. Who exactly do you mean by "the government"? The nice old lady that works down at the local post office? One or two federal agencies? Every single employee of the federal government since the beginning of time? Didn't the government kill Bin Laden? Weren't they pretty up front about that?

C'mon. FedGov is only 600 thousand people. That's it. That's the entire boogieman. Slightly over half a million. And out of that number, how many do you think are actually competent? I've lived and worked in D.C. It's an entire city of incompetent d!cks.

If you guys don't think the government is being upfront, just give concise examples. Saying "the government lied to us man!" Is too broad, and plays on the inner fears of the feeble minded.

So, to recap. Muzlim scum knocked down the towers. To say otherwise is racist.

[Uncle Al]

Oi. Where to begin? We can start with the constitutional convention of 1787. The continental congress called for a convention for the “sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation." That was a lie. As you should well know, the Hamiltonians set it up not to revise the articles but instead write a whole new constitution that suited their purposes of building a large and powerful central govt to run roughshod over the sovereign states.

Then there were a couple of doozies in 1913, to skip ahead a bit. The fed income tax was promised always to be very low and be applied only to a clearly understood definition of "income." That was a lie. Look where we are now. Same year, the Fed. Reserve was set up with the promise that its purpose was to bring price stability and an end to business boom/bust cycles. That was a lie. The dollar today has lost just about 97% of the purchasing power of a 1913 dollar, and do I really need to describe all the cyclical booms and busts of the last 99 years?

We can skip ahead to the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which the govt said was an attack on the US Navy. That was a lie.

The govt inquiry into the death of Bobby Kennedy promised us that Sirhan Sirhan acted alone. That was a lie. S.S. never got closer than several feet to RFK, had a 6-shot revolver, and was always in front of him. Kennedy died of a gunshot wound behind his ear, and there were powder burns on him. I don't remember how many bullets were recovered from the scene, but I seem to recall it was 10 or 11, certainly more than 6.

I could go on if you should ask, but these are clear examples of the govt lying to us.

[Aaron Burr]

Hamilton, Wilson, Johnson and I dunno' about Bobby Kennedy. But he had it coming anyway. None of those examples cover the "lately" requirement of the original post. Am I to make the jump from Hamiltons perfidity to an all out conspiracy to knock down the world trade center?

I can find millions of examples where individuals lie to the government, their spouses and themselves on a daily basis. Does that mean all people suck? Of course not. And, just because Johnson was worse than Hitler, doesn't mean I can say all government workers are in league with the debil.

Even though that would explain a lot.

I simply don't like the saying, "the government lies to you". It's tre' hippy.

Again, if there is some sort of doubt that muzlim child molesting scum bags knocked down the towers, simply fire away. It's been over a decade. I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this easily enough.

[Uncle Al]

None of those examples cover the "lately" requirement of the original post.

You put "lately" in quotation marks, so I went looking for such a requirement. Couldn't find it. You wouldn't have edited it, I don't think, so what's up wid dat?